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FAIRFIELD COUNTY, Conn. — Whose vision for foreign policy do you trust more — Barack Obama's or Mitt Romney's? Which candidate do you trust to protect U.S. interests abroad and Americans at home? Vote in our poll or comment below.
Who won the final presidential debate?
View ResultsWho won the final presidential debate?
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Barack Obama
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Mitt Romney
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Too close to call
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What is the biggest foreign policy issue facing the United States — Afghanistan, terrorism, energy, China or something else? After you vote in the poll, have your say in the comments section below.
Comments (39)
JJH, you're a genius! I nominate you to be the Norwalk Commissar of Eugenic Policy. You can wield your wisdom to determine which children are"wanted" and "unwanted", which have "health problems" that are "too severe", and which might require excessively expensive "special education." I can hardly wait for you and masterminds like you to create your dark dystopia. Long Live the State! We Live for the Fatherland!
It was recently stated to me, "I'm for Romney because I don't want to pay for someone else's birth control." Well, I questioned, is it better to let unwanted children be born, some with severe mental, or physical health problems, who require millions of dollars of instuitional care, and special education, or to pay for birth control? In the end the cost to society for birth control is much less than the alternative, unless of course, we just let children die or kill them to avoid dealing with human needs, when a parent will not, or can not do so. Would this be the better American Way?
There are thousands of couples on the waiting list to adopt children, particularly infants. However, people have gotten into the game of giving the child up and then a while later, Oh, gee. I think I want my child back...bit so people look outside the U.S.
There is also the question of what kind of birth control are you advocating? Several people have pointed out that birth control pills are fairly inexpensive. It's when you get into abortion that the costs soar.
Birth control is typically referring to controlling the process through contraception not abortion. How is voting for Romney a vote against birth control payments?
Romney said on TV during his debate (either the second or third) he was for birth control for everybody .
I need clarification.
Also Paige, to JJH's statement, birth control/contraception is a much more humane way to plan a family. Better to stop the sperm before it hooks up with the egg than after.........
Better to stop the sperm before it hooks up with the egg than after.........
I have no quarrel with that statement. Also, I don't believe that Romney is against contraceptives, which is what the birth control pill is. However, many people include abortion in with birth control.
The rejection of President "Downgrade" is more widespread than just here at The Norwalk Daily Voice:
Rasmussen: Romney +4
Gallup: Romney +5
ABC/WashPost: Romney +1
Politico Romney +2
RCP Avg. Romney +0.9
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html#polls
Strange as when I go to those site I see different numbers as in Obama ahead...Can you Republicans ever do anything honest?
Hi, Queequeg,
I just wanted to comment on how the polls you mentioned are conducted since there are those who seem convinced that the Republicans are skewing the numbers. The best and clearest example I could find was from a New York Time article on how Quinnipiac University collected their data.
The bottom line is that, unlike the Daily Voice or the Hour polls where viewers log on to the site and chose their answer, the contact phone numbers are chosen at random by a computer. Interviews are done by the staff. The full process is outlined in the link below.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/26/us/politics/how-the-poll-was-conducted.html?_r=0
I suppose there could be a way to rig it, but seeing as Romney won consistently across the board, it would take a massive amount of work to get all the pollsters to come up with the same answer, particularly as some major news outlets (ABC, CNN and others) are involved.
Hey Paige,
Just for the sake of curiosity, I have logged into this page on the Daily Voice
4 times and voted each time. Vote early, vote often......its easy.
I'm not surprised that it could be done. Actually, I'd have been more surprised if you hadn't been able to do it. And you could have neutralized your votes simply by voting for one candidate the first time and the other the second time.
However, my point was that it was interesting that when I checked the DV poll and compared it to Gallop and Rasmussen, the results were the same. I believe that was also true of the DV polls after the other two debates. But I did not come back repeatedly to cast multiple votes or to check the final results.
Tim,
I am a republican and I went out of my way to make sure that I did not vote twice and i agree that it is wrong and shame on those that do vote twice.
But think about this...maybe republicans arent voting twice..maybe even some democrats are voting for romney...have you thought about that? People are tired of Obama and people want a REAL change.
Oddly enough, David, the nation wide polls and the poll here at the Daily Voice are very close in terms of results. If you note my post earlier in the thread, the national polls are done by groups calling randomized phone numbers chosen by a computer rather than having people sign into a site and voting. So, I don't really think that the charge of people voting multiple times really has any merit to it. If the results here at the DV were signficantly different than the national polls, well, somebody would probably be gaming the system, but that's not what I am seeing.
Let's cut to the JP Morgan "Chase!" Better yet let's turn the White House into Goldman Sachs North American headquarters where Lord Romney can employ minimum-wage vassals to bake cakes for the peasants. And, please don't forget to install the mezuzah-wearing, triumphantly trumpeting, Angel Moroni atop the U.S. Capitol building. Thus transforming the banal D.C. into bountiful Bainopolis.
To vilify is little more than the voice of obnoxious antipathy and often incredulous. Obama is not a saint and I seriously doubt that a latter-day version will be our nation's savior. Vote for Big Bird to preserve the viability of PBS and send Romney to Bridgewater where he can better exercise his wealth management audacity much more profitably.
Why does no one understand that Obama is the most brilliant sleeper TERRORIST anyone has EVER known of. He is silently killing the power of America from the inside, all while doing with a smile! He is working diligently to DESTROY our country financially which will be our ultimate demise. We will have so much debt that we cannot repay that when our creditors want repayment and we are ubable to provide it, they will own us. And by that time our military will be so diminished that we will have no chance to ward them off. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
That is true, .. but it's really no different with the Republicans. ... The truth of the matter is that the nations debt is already past the point of no return and can never be payed down. Including unfunded liabilities, the US debt is in the area of one hundred trillion dollars and the global derivatives balloon is in the area of one quadrillion dollars. Believe it. The dollars days are numbered as more and more foreign nations are conducting trade via either chinese or japanese currencies or 'real money', ie; gold. Iran for example is selling it's oil to India for payment in gold. .. So much for trade sanctions and the dominant petro dollar.
This is a purposely orchestrated global economic take down. It is being done to force the world towards the eventual establishment of a global economic governance and control system or what famous statesmen such as Bush one and Clinton and Obama have referred to as a "New World Order". If anyone does not believe this, simply read the book entitled; "Tragedy And Hope" by Prof. Carroll Quigley who was Bill Clinton's mentor in college at Georgetown. ... You can also simply google the words "New World Order" or "One World Government" and you will find many references and examples providing proof of this agenda for the world.
The middle class is being systematically destroyed on purpose and the men at the helm are the private banking cartel that owns the Federal Reserve Bank (which is a privately owned cartel of banks and not at all a branch of the federal government), and the European Central Bank etc, etc.
Notice how your dollars are buying less and less at the grocery store? That is largely a result of QE 1, 2 and now the open ended 3, thanks to the Fed. .. Get used to it, because it's going to get a lot worse as the purchasing power of the dollar continues to decline and our wonderful corporate owned presidential candidates never once address the fact of rapidly rising inflation and the ongoing destruction of the savings of American citizens. ..... and countries like China along with international central banks continue to convert more and more of their dollars into gold and other commodities.
Here is another example of what is taking place globally in relation to the petro dollars primacy;
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http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/singapore-bank-to-uncle-sam-stick-it-where-the-sun-dont-shine-9028/
Governor Romney did exactly the right thing last night, he looked and sounded gracious, relaxed and presidential He was appealing to the middle instead of throwing red meat to his base! Obama was angry and disrespectful trying to appeal to his angry and disrespectful base. He engaged in sophomoric taunting tactics unworthy of the president of the United States! Mitt Romney is the winner of this debate because he recognized what the game was and played it well. Obama lost because he played the wrong game and came across as an angry petulant child.
Milt,
I agree..Obama seemed to come out too hard and agressive on the last debate. He should have been like that on the first debate. I think the way Romney came out, calm and collective made it look more honorable and Presidential. Obama didnt seem presidential at all..almost childish.
Actually Romney lost as all polls have shown including the FOX entertainment network
Mr. Romney wasn't presidential, relaxed or gracious. He spoke on and on in party speak sound bites and either refused to be silenced or interrupted the moderator and his President. If you don't respect the man, at least respect the office. His so called tactics were based on showing Romney a liar, a knee jerk reactionary and a dangerous man in so far as we still have no idea how he is intending to do anything he says he will do. 12 million jobs - coming from a Governor whose state was 47 out of 50 in job creation (look it up - fact) . Balancing the budget - from a man whose platform states he will spend in the range of 7 trillion dollars without asking for any more taxes and can't show anyone, anywhere, anything on how that will be done.
He didn't even know simple geography Iran is Syrias road to the sea?
He lied again about Detroit, he wanted to let them go bankrupt and have private money come in, wasn't happening so the Fed came in. Oh and how about contraception - hey, all for it, no wait i said i was against it , gee i don't know, what does my running mate say? hey he's against everything to do with a womans private issues i guess i will be too. He goes what ever way the wind blows and that my friend is Dangerous.
President Obama clearly won last night's debate. Unfortunately for him, nobody much cares about foreign policy because things are so bad at home. So I don't expect that Obama's debate win will have a significant impact on the race. It was interesting that Romney didn't hit harder on the administration's poor handling of the attack on our embassy in Benghazi. Anybody have a theory on why he didn't?
From the debate team they say that Romney decided this type of strategy on his own. I must say that Obama did look more aggressive on the last debate than Romney did although Romney did stand on his own and defend himself.
Obama did seem a little too aggressive and rude at times. Did you notice when Romney asked him on both the Apology tour and skipping Isreal on his trip to the middle east, Obama was speachless..I loved it.
"It was interesting that Romney didn't hit harder on the administration's poor handling of the attack on our embassy in Benghazi. Anybody have a theory on why he didn't?"
Yes maybe Benghazi was not handled poorly and its just the Republicans taking to take advantage of a tragedy for political gain...SO SO TYPICAL
Things are bad all over, all you have to do is look at the news. What we can learn is that austerity does not work and creates much bigger problems. As for Libya, exactly how did the administration handle it poorly? By not mouthing off as Romney did when there was no positive information and people were still in harms way? Or possibly by casting blame and having to endure repercussions if those statements turned out to be incorrect? or by listening to the intelligence and military community and waiting for their on the ground synopsis and estimation of the situation? This is a tense time in a dangerous area so I am not smart enough or privy to the information given to know whether the handling of the situation was poor or exactly right given all factors. I know Mr. Romney isn't and I doubt, with all due respect that you or are either. What I like is president who has the smarts to know what he doesn't know and waits until he does before acting.
Again, just a thought but I think Mr. Romney knew that was a horse he didn't want to ride..
As for Libya, how did the administration handle it poorly?
Do you really have to ask that question?
"We know that Pakistan has arrested the doctor who helped us catch Obama-uh-bin Laden," Schieffer said.
No contest. President Obama won this and the last debate. Romney was laughable last night. Sweating and so out of touch. Ba Bye!!
President Obama won clearly. Mr. Romney said a lot of things- none of which he believes. That can be fact checked by anyone with a computer. His platform and policies have turned a complete 180 - in most cases he agreed with President Obamas policies. Mr. Romnery is a dangerous man, he has no core beliefs that he is willing to stick to so he is not to be trusted.
His state is 48th in education and 47 out of 50 in job creation:
Did Mitt Romney's Massachusetts rank 47th in job creation?
From Politifact, a Pulitzer prize winning fact checking organization.
Repeating a favorite talking point, speakers at the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, N.C., took aim at Mitt Romney’s job-creation record as governor of Massachusetts.
"By the time he left office, Massachusetts was 47th in the nation in job creation," said Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, the Democrat who succeeded Romney in 2006. This claim has been an old chestnut on the campaign trail since last year; we first rated it when President Barack Obama’s campaign adviser, David Axelrod, made it in June 2011. We rated it Half True then, and Half True again a year later. It became such a common talking point for Democrats the Romney campaign came up with a counterattack -- that Massachusetts under Romney initially ranked last among states in job growth, but by the end of his governorship, "we were in the middle of the pack." We gave this claim a Half True as well.
As usual, we will follow our usual approach of looking at the claim in two parts: First, are the numbers correct, and second, how much was the change because of Romney's policies?
We used state-level statistics from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the federal government’s official source of employment data. We used figures for non-farm jobs, seasonally adjusted. And because the Massachusetts governor takes office in early January, we used the data for December of each year as a baseline.
We found that from December 2002 to December 2006, Massachusetts ranked 47th out of 50 states (not including the District of Columbia) in job growth. (We calculated that by using the number of jobs at the beginning and end of the period for each state to determine the percentage change and then ranking the states.) Only Ohio, Louisiana and Michigan fared worse.
So the number is correct.
It doesn't matter which candidate won the debate last night or any other night, ... because either way, the American people lose. .... We are already living under soft fascism in this country (which is defined as the collaboration between corporation and state) and are no longer the republic that this nation was meant to be. ....
The USA was never meant to be a democracy. It was designed and meant to be a Republic. ..... A democracy is majority rule. ... A republic protects the rights of the individual. ....... In a democracy it is the money powers that rule the land, because they control the entire political and election process as well as the press and media towards the manipulation of the masses. .... If you don't believe this then you need to research what has become of our constitutional freedoms in this country. Or perhaps for example you didn't know that right now, the president can declare any US citizen a terrorist threat and have that person thrown in prison indefinitely and without any access to legal representation. That is a fact.... So too, the president can have any US citizen assassinated anywhere in the world whenever he wants to. That is also a fact. ......
Perhaps you were not aware of the fact that many US members of the press as well as other vital US citizens are now and have been for some time, on a government black list as potential enemies of the state. Most of these individuals are on these lists simply because they have been critical of the government.
Both of these candidates work for the money powers. They cleverly present the illusion that they work for the American people, while the truth is a whole other story. ... The US is not engaged in the middle east or anywhere else in the world for the purpose of spreading democracy. That is the propaganda that the state sells to the public to get the people to accept the corporate governments global hegemony.
David, you are right on!
people DO want real change, not empty promises. Obama clearly cannot bring back the economy, Mitt has proven time and time again he knows how to grow a real business.
The polls mean nothing, just one serial spammer that likes to post pro Obama anything.
I think Romney clearly came out on top in last nights and the last Presidential debate. Obama did look better than his 1st and 2nd tries but it was clear he was "trying" to be too aggressive. So much so that he looked like an idiot and spoke way to much rambling on his every word. In some instances he was even offensive.
I loved how Obama talked his way out of the question from Romney about not supporting Isreal and his Aplogetic tour...did you see him stumble on his words trying to figure out a lie to tell the American people..i loved that one.
I mean what President bows to other nations leaders..come on people.
You cant look at any polls right now..the liberals are looking at the liberal polls and the right side are looking at fox...everyone is supporting their own candidate so the polls are very inacurate. Everyone is biased on both sides.
(I voted once by the way..for Romney) and I do work. Have you thought that maybe everyone is voting for Romney is because people are desperate..people want a REAL change. Its not about pointing fingers and sharpening swords and words..its about our future and our childrens future.
But I truly do believe we need a new President. Obama just isnt doing it for the American people and we deserve, demand and need a new person in office.
Wanting the economy to be better and feeling "desperate" are actually not reasons to vote Obama out of office. One must look at what each ticket offers as solutions to what everyone agreed in 2008 would be a long haul effort -- and the details matter. I am concerned that people are voting with emotions that have arisen due to over-manipulation from spin, versus the feelings from closely following politicians' actions and policy work. A thoughtful vote cannot arise after beginning to pay attention 4 weeks before a presidential election (I am not saying that is you). Especially if it comes from spin sources like the shows on Fox that are not in the business of electing anyone but a GOP candidate, period. So much has happened over the past 4 years in Congress and around the world, that paying attention the whole time matters for making an informed decision now. I wish more of the electorate followed more closely all the other elected officials who are involved in making policy. The president is not an all-powerful king or dictator. Obama would have moved this country forward, faster, with a more responsible Congress. The foreign policy expertise of Biden and Secretary of State Clinton would be an enormous loss. Obama chose Biden as his VP because of his vast experience. I was so disappointed when Romney chose Ryan who knows so little in this area (Romney's weakest area as well). I feel Obama deserves 4 more years, while Romney has not shown, in anything he has said over the 6 years he's been running for president, that he deserves even one.
I'm sure they will. Several of them have nothing better to do while most blue-collar Democrats are out working a job or two to try to stay afloat in Fairfield County.
The most active and vocal so-called republicans have never met a system they didn't try to cheat. The rules only apply to the little people. Most of the honest (and real) republicans know this and don't take such surveys seriously either.
The only poll that will matter is on November 6th.
CNN poll 48 Obama 40 Romney
Lets see if the Republicans mess up this poll by voting multiple times each.