74°
This story was updated at 12:02 a.m..
NORWALK, Conn. — Norwalk Police are investigating a shooting at Roodner Court that has sent one victim to the Norwalk Hospital.
The shooting was reported at 5:55 p.m. in building 12 at the housing project off Ely Avenue, Sgt. Thomas Roncinske said. Patrol officers arrived and found a male victim in the hallway of the first floor with an apparent gunshot wound. Officers aided the victim, who suffered serious injuries, and he was taken to the hospital, according to Roncinske, the commander of the detective bureau's A squad.
The detective bureau has developed a suspect and is actively pursuing a number of promising investigative leads, Roncinske said.
Building 12 was evacuated and sealed off. Residents were still prevented from entering as of 7:45 p.m.
According to witnesses, a woman who came out of the building with an infant and a toddler was the victim's girlfriend. The witnesses said the victim is the child's father.
At least 11 police officers investigated. In addition to building 12, building 20 was also evacuated as police searched for the shooter. Residents were allowed to reenter at about 6:40 p.m.
One officer with a 12-gauge shotgun was standing guard nearby, between buildings 18 and 19, keeping an eye on the area behind the property.
Comments (24)
Funny
Gun control only works for those how respect the law. Bad guys do not care.
There is a law in CT related to a crime with a gun, inforce it and they will leave............
hope they get him soon
Regardless of where folks stand on the issue of gun control, surely we all agree that there are too many guns in the hands of too many thugs. How is it that legal guns end up illegally in the hands of criminals? Are guns stolen from manufacturers or smuggled in by the boatload?
Yes, yes, I know that other weapons exist also, but a single criminal can do more harm and more quickly with a gun (especially the semi and automatics) than with a knife...
I dont even remotely agree.
I think the real issue is the thugs, not what they use. Why do we regulate what we can do to try to make our community safer with thugs in it? Why not rid ourselves of those thugs instead? On another note legally armed civilians stop over 2 million crimes a year with guns nationwide. thats just under 5500 per day most without a shot fired, gun control permits many more crimes to happen than it prevents. Armed citizens stop hundreds of times more crime than gun control does. A logical conclusion when we know the facts would be to admit that gun control is detrimental to peace. But its easier for people to rant about guns than it is to actually do something.
@ Diane C2;There are many states where you can simply purchase guns at a gun show. I think most or all require a 3 day waiting period. Yet with cash in hand many exhibitors have you fill out a form and let you go on your way. There are guns that simply get passed on, thug to thug and also home robberies of collectors. I think most are small caliber, which seems to be the choice, hopefully excluding murder from your sentence if caught. Drug Lords will gleefully supply guns. They are just to easily obtained. Some people with guns at home are juveniles, why their parents don't do a room search from time to time amazes me.Many many guns can be easily converted to semi, you can find instructions with diagrams and photos on the Internet.' Semi ' only means shots fired as fast as you can pull the trigger, full auotmatic is where the gun will fire until the magazine is exhausted. Sad.
You "think" but you dont know much about whats required to buy a gun. Very few states have waiting periods, rightfully so because its stupid & has cost people their lives. CT has a 14 day wait if you have no permit. Imagine being an abused woman being stalked with no way to protect yourself, trying to buy a gun only to find out you need to wait 14 days? As I said, women & others have been killed, raped & beaten because of these stupid laws. You say many many guns can be easilly converted to semi. Whats that even mean & which guns are you talking about? Virtually no guns we can buy can be easilly converted to full auto, I'm assuming thats what you meant.
I dont know any drug lords so I'll take your word on it that they give away guns.
At any rate blaming guns is beyond stupid. There are so many things that contribute to these things that focusing on one thing, simply because YOU dont like them is foolhardy, as is saying they use small calibers to avoid a murder wrap.
The BEST thing we can do is educate our young people about guns as far as saftey goes but criminals will do what they want & nothing we do regulation wise will make much difference. Gun control has not worked in the 90 or so years we have been trying it so why should it now? If anything an intelligent person would recognize that since crime is much worse now that before we over regulated a tool it might even be possible that regulating that tool contributes to violence much more than it deters it.
Stop trying to erode our rights for nothing.
@ Ken
Yup,.. I ' think ' most all states,..Have a waiting period of 3 days with a permit. Sorry but I'm not familiar with all 50 states and a handful of territory's. No waiting period for a rifle in most states. As I told Diane C2 you can buy a gun at a show and walk away with it right then and there. It used to be if you were going hunting and were going to travel through Massachusetts, you had to call ahead and let them know. Things change, no I am not up to date on everything about guns.
If you're being stalked call the police. Put a gun in the hands of an ordinary citizen and they hesitate to pull the trigger and very possibly end up with the gun turned on them. 14 days,.. no drive to PA. right now and make your purchase.
If there were armed people in that theater a couple of weeks ago, many many other people would have been maimed due to people mistakenly shooting at the wrong person. or you being caught in the crossfire!
I'm not blaming guns. I didn't offer my personal point of view.
You're talking about gas operated spring fed weapons.? Any weapon that has the capability of firing in full auto mode can be change to that,..look on the Internet.
Drug lords providing guns,.. you betcha! Haitians right now are being supplied guns by South Americans in exchange for marijuana.
They do use small caliber Ken, how could you possibly be admitted to a hospital with 2-3 torso penetrations and be discharged in the morning? Yes they are the guns of choice and yes they do use them to avoid murder charges. Isn't there a man in the hospital right now with a torso penetration? Try to manage that with a 45 cal. hand gun, the through and through exit wound is large enough to put your fist in.
Do you own a gun? Ever point it at a person with intent to fire? Ever roll somebody over to view the exit wound?
Your Right as it was originally drafted was the right to arm yourself to form a militia. How many citizens in England have hand guns? You have the Right to carry a side arm as long as it displayed, go for it Ken. See how many punks want to engage you. Have the courage to fire first and then have the stamina to put up with the charming folks in the cells next to you.
There is no need to go off on me, with words like ' intelligent ' ' blaming guns ', ' foolhardy ', ' erode your Rights '.
You do what you want and I will defend your right to do so for as long as there is a law for it. Promise. However just the thought that you become so passionate about my statement give me definite cause for pause. It's that phallic extension, testosterone syndrome, that you're best at abandoning Ken.
Now, for me personally, I find a gun much to impersonal, I'd prefer a knife. No I don't stroll about in S. Norwalk, so I don't carry a knife. I'm skilled at guns and knives, so really I don't worry about it to much. I've used both and Know the damage they can inflict.
Let's waive any cooling off period so she can get her purchase home today. With reckless abandon lets toss intellect over emotion aside. Let's hope she knows how to load it and get off a round at least at the wall instead of the ceiling and being amazed that a 3 pound piece of metal could break her jaw. It's a shame she didn't have enough time to obtain a certain amount of proficiency at the range, while she came to appriciate the powerful destruction a gun can inflict. Best outcome, she was raped after breaking her jaw, her one round found in the neighbors door jamb.
The Founders wanted you to have the Right to bear arms and at the time it was a flint lock musket, wasn't it, certainly not a semi automatic or a street sweeper. I think you should be able to stockpile all the muskets you want / need for peace of mind.
Think things through,
Enjoy your weekend,
Namaste.
9mm is not a small caliber & thats whats mostly used, if you think its small you might want to ask the dead guys around the world as its the most common military handgun round in the world. In CT as in every state I know of theres no wait to buy any gun if you have a permit. just what good does a waiting period do? You are very mistaken about gun shows, trust me, I go to them & unless you are buying from a regular person in your own state you need to go thru NICS. In CT you need to go thru NICE even on a person to person purchase.
MA would like you to call ahead, but thats against federal law. Look into the "Firearms owners protection act" Basically you can transport any gun, unloaded, as long as you can legally posess it at both your starting & stopping points. I go thru MA all the time with guns, did so today on my way back from NH. Also you CANNOT just go to PA & buy a gun, not a handgun anyway. Federal law states you need to be a resident of the state you purchase it in. Of course you can pay for it & have it shipped to an FFL here but then CT laws apply before you can take posession.
Virtually NO handguns are gas operated and I thought that was what we were talking about. Dont believe all you read on the web either. Most AR type guns cannot be easilly turned into full autos. Besides all that when was the last time you read of a full auto being used in ANY crime? Its so rare as to be statistically irrelevant, its a non issue. As to the theater in CO, who can say? I know if I find myself looking down the barrel of a gun I'd sure rather be able to shoot back than just give up my life for nothing. Additionally its pretty odd that these things almost always happen in "gun free" zones. Perhaps if more people had a gun they wouldnt happen at all. Insureing a room full of helpless victims doesnt seem a very good deterrent at all.
What does Hatians being supplied by South Americans have to do with you & me? Unless we are talking about the guns Obama & Holder let them have not much.
Yes a 45 theoretically makes a bigger hole, but its also a slower round that produces less hydrostatic shock and less dramatic wounds. If you think you can put your fist thru the wound channel you are very sadly mistaken. You might be able to squeeze your thumb into it but thats it. No I have never pointed one at a person or seen an exit wound on a person. Seen alot of deer shot though & a 45/70 (much more powerful than a 45 pistol round) does very little damage compared to a 30 caliber of higher velocity.
OUR right, as originally drafted was much wider in scope than militia duty, militia duty was a compelling reason, given the political situation at the time, but it was just one reason that our right to keep & bear arms was included in the Constitution. Not sure where your going with this
" You have the Right to carry a side arm as long as it displayed, go for it Ken. See how many punks want to engage you. Have the courage to fire first and then have the stamina to put up with the charming folks in the cells next to you."
First its illegal in CT to carry a sidearm without a permit so that right has been squarely erased & second with a permit you can carry openly or concealed as you see fit. That said I dont do things out of bravado & most people will never know if I have a gun or not, its not their concern.
I only went off on you because you were certainly blaming the fact that criminals can get guns rather than those criminals themselves.
I became passionate about it only because its a right much eroded with no benefit in this state, or the country in general. I care about it and am very involved in fighting for it. No biggie & nothing phallic or testosterone induced about it. Guns are very effective tools, why do you think the police have them?
If you toss the rhetoric vitriol you might grasp the idea that if a bad guy, be it a bitter ex or whatever, knows you might be armed they usually leave you alone, just like happens with police, bad guys know they have guns so they mostly avoid them. Why would it be any different if they knew that anybody might be armed? Knowing a victim is helpless goes very far in emboldening potential attackers. I'm not interested in what you are skilled with, nor am I interested in your invented scenarios. Perhaps you can post a link to a story of an armed woman being victimized, I dont know. But I do know that most people who buy a gun take it seriously & get some training. I also know from experience that women pick it up much faster than men. You can toss out hyperbole about how ineffective a woman with a gun might be, but how can it be better to insure they are helpless? Why create a safe environment for the criminal?
Bear in mind that a flintlock musket WAS an assault weapon at the time, it was state of the art military weaponry. I'm not saying that automatic weapons should be for sale at the corner gun shop, but the founders certainly would.
I'v been thinking these things thru for years.
I did enjoy my weekend thank you, and hope you enjoyed yours as well.
Ken.
http://www.weaponscombat.com/full-auto-conversion
Good luck tryimg to return fire while your looking down the barrel,..let's all get armed, there will be only a few survivers. Call, you call your ex and tell her you have a gun. She'll say that's okay honey, you have to take a nap sooner or later. Give me a Break, it somebody is stalking you, they're not concerned with being caught or shot back at.
No need to reply, I'm done with this, otherwise I have to go into personal experiemnce with a M1911 and I'd prefer to let that rest.
There is basically N)O difference between 9mm and 45 cal
I just read on another site that the NPD has a name and description...It is not my place to post this but the daily may want to look into this as the PD has stated this individual is armed and dangerous.
Tim,
We don't report off a scanner. Scanner traffic is notoriously unreliable.
Norwalk Police have not confirmed any details, per a new policy from Chief Kulhawik.
We should know more in the morning, after the daily briefing.
Thanks Nancy
I just got a little more info. Posted above.
Let us hope they catch this one as it seems (not sure) that an infant and a toddler may have been in the area of the shooting..Clearly this scum has ZERO respect for any human life.
Will the crime epidemic in Norwalk never end...WE NEED CHANGE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM THE TOP DOWN.....What are these overpaid civil servants paid to do if not solve these crimes???The scum has no fear of the NPD as they know that they will not be caught..The only reason the barber shop one was caught is someone knew his name..Let us not forget the wild west shoot out on meadow street 2 days ago.
Looking at a satellite picture it looks like there are 13 buildings ... I didn't notice if there was a building 1, 2, etc. I think it went up to at least Building 24.
I'll find out for you. If Oldtimer doesn't chime in with the correct info and beat me to it!
@ Nancy;
I looked at the Sat first before I commented. It was hard to discern if some of the Bldgs. were duplex style or they were numbered by street numbers.
Anyway I guess I didn't think of it as being as large as it looks from the Sat. Tennis & Basketball courts yet obvious is the limited amount of parking.
In another life I used to refer people to the Springwood Clinic and was there once to acquaint myself with the facility but I didn't drive around the neighborhood. In that neck of the woods,there was a small abandoned building maybe five stories high with a small room at the top that had iron bars, I never found out what that was. Amazing I even got out of my car to climb to the top floor. Maybe somebody could tell me about that (stone) structure.
Sgt. Roncinske confirms that there are 13 buildings, plus a garage. I didn't see that ...
It was my first visit to the complex.
Thanks. Enjoy your Labor Day weekend ! ;-)
20 Bldgs.,..I had no idea it was that extensive a complex
You read it wrong... there is only 13 buildings total at Roodner Court
Thank you, That's what Nancy explained to me around 12:15 this morning. The article read; buildings 12 - 20.