Norwalk Gun Buyback Program Collects 18 Guns

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Police officers examine the shotgun turned in by Dan Hoffkins of Norwalk. Photo Credit: Ken Liebeskind

NOIRWALK, Conn. – The Norwalk Police Department's first gun buyback program collected 18 weapons Saturday, mostly old rifles and revolvers, according to Christopher Holms, a police officer and the department's Drug Abuse Resistance Education (DARE) coordinator.

"Mostly old-timers bring them in, but if they pass them on and someone takes them, they could end up in the wrong hands," Holms said.

The guns that were dropped off at police headquarters will be destroyed by the State Police, he said.

Individuals were given Visa gift cards for their guns – $50 for rifles, $75 for revolvers and pistols and $100 for assault rifles. No assault rifles were turned in Saturday.

Dan Hoffkins from Norwalk received a $50 card for a 20-gauge High Standard Supermatic Deluxe shotgun.

"It was my grandfather's gun and he left it to me," Hoffkins said. "I went skeet shooting with friends a few times, but it's not for me and I want to make sure it's responsibly taken care of. It's a good thing they're doing, getting guns off the street, even if they come from homes."

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robdny:

To the editor daily voice

As a black Muslum I feel that ponytail Steve's reference to Muslims being killers on this thread is offensive and racist. This behavior should not be allowed on this site or any site for that matter.

The Norwalk Truth:

Jim T ponytail Steve what you fail to realize if there were no gun there would be no trigger to be pulled

Sturm44:

How do you plan to reduce the number of firearms to zero without violating the 4th, 5th & perhaps 9th & 10th Amendments?

I suppose you could just wave a magic wand, since that will work just as well as any legal method.

Tim T:

The Norwalk Truth
You are 100000000 Percent correct

OLD TIMER:

Wasn't there a problem with confiscated guns, scheduled to be destroyed, turning up and being confiscated at a crime scene a second time ? Why don't they just take them to a local junkyard and have an officer supervize while a yard employee destroys them ?

right wing are wackos:

I would suggest that everyone read the pro gun posts on this thread. THEY PROVE THE NEED FOR GUN CONTROL and mental health testing

Queen ffctguitar:

Ones party affiliation has nothing to do with being a killer.. Your post without question is the most absurd thing I have ever read. Also your information in false as party affiliation was never discussed with the names mentioned in your post. The only sites that have posted these lies are the far right wing blogs

Jim T:

Actually Tim it does. I am pointing out the irony that the liberals cry and whine all about gun control but all the mentally unstable people that do the shootings (because guns do not kill) are actually left wingers.
There are idiots that blame the GOP and right wingers but the truth is its Democrats and the whacked out liberals that are doing all the killings.

Sturm44:

According to the FBI, between 2004-2011 there were 850 homicides in CT. Can anyone tell me how many by rifles & shotguns?

Queen ffctguitar:

Just a guess but I would think at least 95 percent

Sturm44:

Sorry, but the total number is 2. That woks out to 0.2%.

Yup, better get those dangerous firearms off the street.

Mr Norwalk CT:

If thats true which I doubt..Do you feel better that they were killed with hand guns..I guess this years numbers will be much higher with Newtown..

Sturm44:

Feel better? No. Just pointing out how ridiculous the claim is that so called 'assault weapons' are devastating our streets. Handguns have always been the primary homicide method, yet while the estimated # of firearms has increased from 180M in 1994 to 300M today, the violent crime rate has dropped 50%. The number of states with shall issue concealed carry has expanded from 9 states in 1987 to 41 states as of 2011.

Below is an attachment to the spreadsheet listing the homicide methods, but you can lookup the stats yourself on the FBI UCR site.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4EuX9RjmuxxZnJGTnA2Sk9KV2c/edit?usp=sharing

kybrdplyr:

"Biggest issue I have with it is the waste of police resources & tax dollars. We dont need police officers to conduct these things."

The money to pay for this gun buyback was donated, anonymously, by a private citizen.

I think we should all hold a funeral for that grandfather's gun. Have a few readings, sing a few songs, then take all of our guns, with a whoop and a holler, and shoot up into the air. You guys act like a puppy was killed or something. It's a piece of metal.

Veteran:

"It's a piece of metal" - so is a Patek Phillippe, the Eiffel Tower, a Ferrari, your wedding ring (assuming anyone would marry you), and any number of other things. Just because you don't like the object doesn't decrease its value or appreciation of it by others.

Mr Nelson:

kybrdplyr
I bet he purposely missed it. These pro guns at any cost group are a sad sad group. They just cant seem to understand the devastation guns have caused.

Pony Tail Steve:

You mean people have caused?
I have never seen a gun cause any harm.

Queen ffctguitar:

Oh I guess the bullets that slaughtered 26 in Newtown were spit out of a persons mouth..

Jim T:

They were in a gun, a person pulled the trigger. They cannot do anything on their own, they need a human to shoot them FYI

Mr Norwalk CT:

And without a gun bullets would be useless..Thank you for pointing that out.

kybrdplyr:

Apparently you missed Mr. Nelson's reply.

Mr Nelson:

kybrdplyr
So true
I would like to add to your comment " It's a piece of metal"
It's a piece of metal that's only purpose is to kill

Veteran:

Let's ban anything in the US that's used to kill people - like all our defense systems. Hey, let's take the guns away from cops because they only use them to kill civilians - remember that criminals are civilians and we wouldn't want any harm to come to them because they can all be rehabilitated.

Just check the stats on CT criminals and see why you're so safe - especially while you're waiting for the police to arrive to a threatening situation.

kybrdplyr:

Veteran, you must have missed the fact that there are a whole lot of people who dearly wish:

It Would Be A Perfect World if Schools had Enough Money and the Military Had to Hold Bake Sales

If every gun was banned from everyone, everywhere, there would be war but not the annihilation we see now both in foreign lands and in our own country. I think that it is o.k. to hope that humanity could be better (we are in the 21st Century after all) and that those minds so defective that they are criminal would have rehabilitative lock-up. (Even today there are programs in prisons where prisoners, including those incarcerated for murder, are training dogs to assist war veterans.)

To hope for this does not mean a person is ignorant of the realities of violence. It also does not mean a person must live constantly in fear or under a sense of threat. Life is way too short to be scared of it all of the time. This is not naivete, this is a choice about how to choose what life is even in the face of great hardship.

What about laughter, sunshine, a beautiful day at the ocean, I know, you are scoffing and laughing because it is ridiculous to think about these things. But they are part of life too: not just fear, not just threats, not just guns and not just bombs.

Veteran:

To Jim T:

They DESTROY them, usually by using a metal-cutting circular saw, slicing the barrel in half and then sending the pieces to a metal recycler. What a waste!

Maybe someday he'll give something precious or important to his kids and they'll turn around and dump it - and he'll remember what he did to his grandfather's memory.

And with Moccia as our mayor, we'd never get the opportunity to buy these guns and give the funds to the NPD because to him all guns are 'illegal'.

Paige:

Just curious here, Veteran. Did you actually hear the Mayor say that?

Jim T:

That's a shame. But I guess it is what it is, right?

Paige:

Actually, Jim, the reason that I asked is I happened to be present a short time after a shooting when former Police Chief Rilling was asked by the Mayor if he had any problems with licensed gun owners. Chief Rilling replied that licensed gun owners were not a problem. That's why I wondered if Veteran heard the Mayor say that every gun was illegal.

I also question it on the grounds that there are many people who need to carry firearms, like oh, say, the police, personal guards and prison guards, those who have been victims of domestic violence and fear for their lives and others. I can't see the Mayor putting himself in the same mess that Bloomberg did by attempting to outlaw guns but retaining his own personal security.

Mr Nelson:

Moccia could only hope to be one tenth the mayor Bloomberg is. Moccia could'nt run a yard sale successfully.

Jim T:

Hey Paige and Ken,
Don't you guys think this program should just continue indefinitely? Why is this just a "special occasion"?
We agree this will do nothing to reduce gun violence, however that is not the point. The point is if unwanted guns are in a household, and the average citizen that is not comfortable with that gun should be assisted by the police to dispose of it.
The police could also direct people towards local gun dealers and stimulate the economy just a wee bit, if its worth something or if not give people $$ and prevent future accidents.
Let the program remain in place is what I say.

Paige:

Actually, Jim, the point of the "special event" is to call attention to it and advertise that one could turn in the firearm without repercussions.

I think that there are police departments that will take in "unwanted" guns at any time. They might not pay the person turning it in for it, though.

And I have heard of people who have legitimately found or discovered firearms and when they have gone to turn them in, they lost their jobs, usually on a technicality.

Jim T:

That's crazy!! Figures when a good citizen tries to do right, there is always some new rule or regulation to punish them. Sad...

Paige:

Oh, yeah, it happened in Detroit. Here's the one I know about.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2146198/Government-worker-fired-turning-gun-job.html

I'm sure there are others.

Paige:

You really had to work on that one, didn't you? If you actually read my article, you would know I chose it because it was a "neutral" source. It was not CNN, CBS, NPR, Fox, NRA or any other media source that might have an agenda. The incident took place in Detroit. The article was deemed important enough by the editors to publish it in England. That alone says something.

The Norwalk Truth:

Funny but truthful

Jim T:

"It was my grandfather's gun and he left it to me," Hoffkins said. "I went skeet shooting with friends a few times, but it's not for me and I want to make sure it's responsibly taken care of. It's a good thing they're doing, getting guns off the street, even if they come from homes."

WOW. It sure is "responsibly taken care of" Grandpa would be proud of you! Your son or daughter would never want to shoot that I suppose, right? Not like handing down guns is an american tradition since we became AMERICA!!
I hope the NPD at least get decent $ from these weapons. Not sure what they plan on doing with them, but its a shame to destroy nice ones if they could get $$ to use toward other things.

Also since there is a positive balance ($5026 minus whatever they paid out), I personally think this program should continue until all the funds are exhausted. For the people that do just want them gone, they should be able to call and make an appointment at any time not just during certain "publicity stunts".

Odd...not a single Gang Banger or criminal showed up apparently. Strange.

Tim T:

I commend this young man for doing the right thing and turning it in.

right wing are wackos:

HOW MANY MORE EXAMPLES FOR THE NEED OF GUN CONTROL DO WE NEED??

Former Navy SEAL and bestselling author Chris Kyle was shot and killed on Saturday at a gun range in Texas.

Kyle, known as America's Deadliest Sniper, would sometimes take fellow veterans with PTSD out shooting as a way to help them get over the trauma of combat. That's exactly what he did on Saturday. He and a friend, Chad Littlefield, went to the gun range with Eddie Ray Routh, a vet struggling with PTSD. For unknown reasons Routh turned on his companions, shooting and killing both of them.

Routh fled the scene but was later arrested on two counts of capital murder.

Since retiring from the military, Kyle "devoted his life...to helping fellow soldiers overcome post-traumatic stress," the NYTimes reports. "Chris died doing what he filled his heart with passion - serving soldiers struggling with the fight to overcome PTSD," said his friend Travis Cox said in a statement.

Kyle is famous for his bestselling book American Sniper and is known as "America's deadliest sniper" for killing over 150 Iraqi insurgents.

Jim T:

Shot by another crazy guy on meds. Get your facts straight. Chris is a true American hero. He knew he was taking a risk trying to help the guy that shot him. May he RIP and may his family get through this.

kybrdplyr:

Chris was in the military and paid to be a sniper. Shooting a lot of people dead does not make a hero. PTSD is an illness suffered because of trauma. It is as likely that this "guy that shot him" was having a flashback as a result of the gun shots as it is that he was a "crazy guy on meds." Using "crazy" for mental illness is a pejorative term that is not accurate: the veteran who shot Chris could easily have been experiencing a shift to his neuro-transmitters due to similarities between a wartime situation and that of a shooting range. I have seen no facts published to indicate otherwise and I doubt you have either, Jim T. You clearly do not know the first thing about PTSD or what causes it from personal experience. It you did, you would not so easily call this guy "crazy." It is a real illness and, unfortunately, Chris took too great a risk in trying to treat an illness he was probably not qualified to treat. He took a risk and lost and that is a great shame.

Paige:

Chris was in the military and paid to be a sniper.

Just a point. Yes, he was a soldier; yes, he was paid. And soldiers often have to kill people. It's part of war. Chris said that in his book.

However, - and you knew this was coming, right? - it is one thing to take a machine gun and indiscriminately spray bullets through a market place or a hotel killing innocent civilians going about their daily business (I believe the term for this is "collateral damage") and having a sniper take out one person to prevent that person from killing many others. It is the same thing that the police officer had to do when he arrived at Sandy Hook Elementary, except the killing had already begun. It is the same thing that countless police officers across this nation have had to do in order to save lives. But Chris did it pre-emptively in a foreign country and during a war. He did it with precision and knew the target in advance.

kybrdplyr:

Paige, what is your point exactly? Are you differentiating between the paid sniper and the mass murderer or apprehension of a mass murderer? Do you believe in times of war children, women and male innocents are not killed, sometimes accidentially and sometimes on purpose (quickest come to mind example would be the My Lai massacre)? That soldiers have the war imprimatur makes the people no less dead. My hope and prayer for humanity is that we could learn to solve problems without killing or irreparably wounding anyone.

Paige:

Obviously from your comments, you think the worst of me in that I would sanction the outright murders of civilians during wartime. I'm sorry you feel that way and you couldn't be more wrong.

I never endorsed blowing up markets or hotels, or children. I used that as examples of heinous acts that have been performed during wars and as terrorist tactics.

My point is that a sniper has a single specific, identified target. He is not shooting randomly and usually not returning enemy fire. The military have snipers and so do the special police forces tactical teams. Their job is to neutralize killers and save lives.

kybrdplyr:

Paige, It's called "dialogue." I don't understand what your point is and was trying to get closer to that. I don't generally think the worst of anyone and certainly not you (especially based on past posts!) I never said you would "sanction the outright murders of civilians during wartime" and had no reason to say that. I gave these as examples because I was asking a question, Are you differentiating between what a sniper does and what a mass murderer does? With both, the aim of the weapon ends up dead. The number of people killed whether in wartime or by "special police forces tactical teams" or by mass murderers is not relevant unless you are placing an intrinsic value on human life. (Using the term "neutralize killers", is sanitized military-speak for killing.) It's all death, it all ends life, whether a "specific, identified target", or "blowing up markets."

Paige:

Okay, people end up dead when mass murderers are loose. They also end up dead when there are drive by shootings in Chicago, which apparently had a higher number of people murdered this past year than we had die in Afghanistan. So, in terms of death and dying, there's an undeclared war going on there.

So, what would you have done if you were the first responding officer to arrive at Sandy Hook Elementary?

kybrdplyr:

What DID the first responding officer to arrive at Sandy Hook do? Wasn't it already done with a suicide by Adam Lanza to the head? If you are askiing would I protect children from a gun-shooting sadist, I would give my life for them. I probably would not be armed but that does not mean I would not have tried to stop Adam Lanza by using force. It's a disingenuous question - there is no one in their right minds who would not try to have saved those children and adults in any way possible. You have me pigeon-holed, I am afraid, as seems so necessary in these forums. One can value life and try very hard to protect it at the same time and not have to use, necessarily, deadly force. Sadly, in our world and with the way humans think, solving gun problems always has to be solved with guns. I think humans are smarter than that, or at least could be, but the resolve to keep guns in the picture, out of fear, is too great.

kybrdplyr:

Paige, what is your point exactly? Are you differentiating between the paid sniper and the mass murderer or apprehension of a mass murderer? Do you believe in times of war children, women and male innocents are not killed, sometimes accidentially and sometimes on purpose (quickest come to mind example would be the My Lai massacre)? That soldiers have the war imprimatur makes the people no less dead. My hope and prayer for humanity is that we could learn to solve problems without killing or irreparably wounding anyone.

lousfool:

kybrdplyr
100 PERCENT CORRECT

Paige:

kybrdplyr:

Just a bit a clarification needed here.

Chris took too great a risk in trying to treat an illness he was probably not qualified to treat. He took a risk and lost and that is a great shame.

Are you saying that Chris Kyle had PTSD and needed treatment or the shooter had PTSD and Chris Kyle was trying to help him?

From my reading of the articles, it sounded like the second scenario, but I'm not sure how Kyle was trying to "treat" the illness. Could you clarify that?

kybrdplyr:

An article on NBCnew.com alludes to Chris "having his own struggles" he had to work through which means nothing as far as whether he suffered from PTSD himself. He wanted "to help spread his healing, what worked for him, to others." Whether he had PTSD has not been confirmed. He did this through a non-profit called FITCO, especially with those with PTSD (as I read it.) Please see "Ex-Navy SEAL sniper Chris Kyle died pursuing his passion", NBCnews.com. Either way, I don't see how whether he had PTSD makes any difference. Training to be a sniper, I'm afraid, does not qualify one to treat serious mental disease, although a great deal of empathy was probably appreciated by his clients.

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