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Norwalk Councilwoman Duleep Speaks At Gun Control Event

Norwalk Common Councilwoman Anna Duleep (D-At Large) will be one of the guest speakers Thursday night at a gun control discussion at the New Fairfield Stop and Shop, from 7 p.m. to 9 p.m. Photo Credit: Alfred Branch

NORWALK, Conn. – Norwalk Common Councilwoman Anna Duleep (D-At Large) will be one of the featured speakers Thursday at a gun-control event from 7 to 9 p.m in the Community Room at the New Fairfield Stop and Shop, 25 Route 39.

Duleep, an educator by profession and a staunch gun- control advocate, was invited to speak at the event by the Greater Danbury Chapter of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, which is hosting the discussion.
She will focus her speech on creative solutions to convincing state legislators to consider new “common sense” gun safety laws.

“Many people are frustrated when they get that form letter back from their elected representative,” said Duleep in a statement. Her dog, Scrappy, was shot to death in her backyard in 2008, a crime that has not been solved. “They want to know how to further the conversation after that first ambiguous response. I’m happy to trek to New Fairfield and work with activists across the country on our common goal: keeping Connecticut safe.”

In addition to Duleep, other guest speakers include, Marty Isaac, president of Connecticut Against Gun Violence, Aija Gibson, president of the Kent chapter of Million Mom March Chapter, and Lori Fedewa, president of the Warren chapter of Million Mom March.

Comments (23)

pony tail stevie:

England strong gun control laws
Only 33 gun deaths in the whole country in the year.

Paige:

Great. 33 gun deaths per year. But that doesn't stop murderers.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9915588/Teenager-stabbed-to-death-on-journey-to-school-had-tweeted-about-fears-over-man-on-bus.html

Thomas Paine:

Yeah, and two summers ago a good chunk of London and other cities burned to the ground because the punk anarchists had no fear of reprisal from an armed citizenry.

Contrast that to the LA riots after the Rodney King trial where dozens died and LA burned except for the Korean town area. Why? Because the Korean shop owners protected their neighborhood with their handguns and evil black rifles. They did not shoot anyone but fired warning shots over the heads of the rioters that were approaching their locations. Funny thing about "warning shots", they are easy to expend when you have 30-round magazines. When local laws limit you to 10-round mags, the "warning shots" might be a warning to the others in the group when the first aimed round makes its target.

Funny thing is, as ineffectual as "gun free zones" might be, folks like stevie want to turn the entire state of CT into one big gun free zone, except for the criminals. I will live in Texas when that time comes so good luck with that!

LAP:

England (an island with strict control of its borders, unlike the U.S. with borders that are a sieve) is considered the most violent country in the European Union. Rampant violent crime, assaults, rapes, etc... Some specifics:

133% more assaults than the U.S.
326 times more drug offenses than the U.S.
125% more rapes than the U.S.
25% more crime victims than the U.S.
30% of their citizens don't feel safe walking after dark

Should I keep going?

You go ahead and keep cherry picking your stats and thinking that you are being smart. You're not. The fact of the matter is that gun homicide in Connecticut is minimal in comparison to the rest of the country. It's gun crime rates have been dropping year after year. We already have strong gun control laws. They just need to enforce what is already there.

It's an unfortunate reality that nothing they are proposing would in any way have prevented Newtown or most other gun homicides in this state or any other. Laws don't prevent crime; they just punish after the fact. Since mass murderers tend to commit suicide after their crimes, they don't even end up getting the punish end of the laws.

LAP:

No lies involved. Every FACT included is clearly supportable from any number of sources if you had any intelligence and the ability to use research skills. Something you obviously are not capable of or don't care to do because it doesn't support your agenda.

Since we are asking rhetorical questions, why don't you explain why you can only insult people rather than providing your own legitimate supporting evidence? Could it be because when you look at the actual facts, they don't support your position?

On a side note, you do realize that most people over the age of 10 stop calling people names when they disagree with them. It shows a lack of intelligence that most educated adults like to avoid. However, if you like looking like an ignorant individual, you are certainly free to do so and are doing a fabulous job of it. Even if it weren't clear in your messages, it's clearly evident by your lack of basic grammar skills in your screen name. If you ever decide to get an education or to behave like an adult, feel free to respond to me. Otherwise, don't bother as you are too far beneath me to make it worth my while. If I want to talk to a five year old, I'll go volunteer at a preschool.

Oh, in case you missed it, this is called condescension. It's how adults insult people.

pony tail stevie:

Chicago actually have some of the weakest outlaws in the country.
This is yet further proof why we need gun control.

Thomas Paine:

"weakest outlaws" = "need gun control" ?

So if the Chicago outlaws would go to the gym and get stronger, we would reduce the gun violence and need fewer gun laws? Sounds like Rahm Emanuel should be giving out free gym memberships.

Pony Tail Steve:

2011
deaths by semi automatic rifle 323
deaths by hammers 496
deaths by knifes 650
deaths by drunk drivers 12,0000
death by medical malpractice 195,000

Fact is you are 6 times more likely to die from OBAMACARE than by an assault weapon. How about that?

lwitherspoon:

@Jim T

I'm not sure why everybody keeps trotting out the example of Chicago as an example of why gun laws don't work. Chicago is not an island, it's surrounded by a vast country where gun laws aren't nearly as strict. The borders between Chicago and the rest of the country are 100% porous.

It seems to me that you would be better off simply arguing that the 2nd amendment means what it says.

Paige:

Spoon,

The reason that Chicago is a text book example of the result of strict gun laws is that the criminals know that there's a really good chance that law abiding citizens aren't armed. They are unprotected. The chances of having return fire is limited to other gang members or police. So, yes, you are correct in that the surrounding counties and towns that have more liberal gun laws can supply the guns, but basically anyone who has a gun in Chicago other than the law enforcement, is a criminal. It hasn't stopped the river of blood at all.

Sadly, last year Chicago logged in over 500 murders. I haven't seen a figure to indicate how many were from gun violence, but I bet the majority of the homicides were from shootings. That's more than we lost in the Iraq/Afghanistan conflict.

lwitherspoon:

@Paige
Is there research showing that after passing strict gun laws, gun deaths in Chicago went up, and that the increase was not due to any other factor than the stricter gun laws? I am not well-informed on this issue but isn't it also true that New York has seen gun homicides plummet year after year, and they have strict gun laws too?

As I have said before, I don't have any issue with people owning firearms for protection. I question the need for something as powerful as an AR-15, but reasonable people can disagree on that issue. I do however feel strongly that there should be more powerful incentives for gun owners to secure their weapons. Newtown happened due to a failure by a law-abiding gun owner to secure her weapons. The NRA could be part of the solution immediately by speaking out on this issue, and by encouraging gun owners to consider for a moment whether they want to end up like Nancy Lanza.

Paige:

I don't know for sure, since I'll have to do some in depth research, but this story on PBS turned up when I started a search:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/social_issues/jan-june13/afternewtown_02-22.html

Apparently, the number of deaths due to gun violence in Chicago for the first two months of this year has surpassed that of January and February of 2012 already.

They have a transcript of the interview on the site and this fact turned up, which is enormously tragic:

ELIZABETH BRACKETT: The vast majority of Chicago's gun-related homicides are concentrated in just a few neighborhoods on the city's South and West sides. Gun violence is the leading cause of death for African-American males ages 15-24.

One of the interviewees goes on to speak about a program called "Becoming a Man" (BAM) and the results that they found. The interesting thing in that test study was that the gun laws did not change. What changed were the attitudes of the young men.

The other thing about deaths resulting from gun violence is that they count suicides in the overall figure. That inflates the number. So, it would be important to see if Chicago's figures include that or if they are strictly homicide figures.

Paige:

Spoon,

This interesting statement turned up when I was looking for the information on suicide by guns in the same Wikipedia article
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States]:

No association vis-à-vis safe-storage laws of guns that are owned, and gun suicide rates have been found. Studies that attempt to link gun ownership to likely victimology often fail to account for the presence of guns owned by other people.[20][21] Safe-storage laws do not appear to affect gun suicide rates or juvenile accidental gun death.[20][21]

Here's the references:

[20] Kleck, Gary (2004). "Measures of Gun Ownership Levels of Macro-Level Crime and Violence Research". Journal of Research in Crime and Delinquency 41: 3–36. doi:10.1177/0022427803256229. NCJ 203876. "Studies that attempt to link the gun ownership of individuals to their experiences as victims (e.g., Kellermann, et al. 1993) do not effectively determine how an individual's risk of victimization is affected by gun ownership by other people, especially those not living in the gun owner's own household."
[21] Lott, John, John E. Whitley (2001). "Safe-Storage Gun Laws: Accidental Deaths, Suicides, and Crime". Journal of Law and Economics 44 (2): 659–689. doi:10.1086/338346. "It is frequently assumed that safe-storage laws reduce accidental gun deaths and total suicides. We find no support that safe-storage laws reduce either juvenile accidental gun deaths or suicides."

Pony Tail Steve:

The Chicago gun laws are the proof that gun laws do not work. If you research yourself where the toughest gun laws are, those areas have the highest crime and murders.
That is why they are cited as examples.

Jim J:

Chicago actually has the weakest gun laws in the county. The lies you hear about them having strong guns laws were all made up lies by the right wing blogs.
Now lets all wait for the troll to post a link to a virus again.
England strong gun laws 33 murders for the year.
REPEAL THE 2ND AMENDMENT

Sturm44:

Weakest? They had a complete ban on handguns for 30 years until it was overturned by the Supreme Court 2 years ago. There still aren't any gun stores in Chicago.

Illinois is ranked #9 by the Brady Campaign.

Paige:

Okay, apparently, my post with the links to the Supreme Court decisions for Washington, D.C. and Chicago was cut. Why? It was on topic and factual.

Well for what it is worth, here's the links to the two landmark cases on gun ownership from the U.S. Supreme Court.

2008 Washington D.C. gun ban overturned by U.S. Supreme Court
www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

2010 McDonald vs. Chicago, - gun ban overturned by U.S. Supreme Court
www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/09pdf/08-1521.pdf

Cool Runner:

If anyone wants to view and listen to Councilwoman Duleep's comments made to the School Security Working Group of theGunViolence Prevention and Children's SafetyBipartisanTaskForce on January 25, 2013 ,link to:

http://ct-n.com/ondemand.asp?ID=8626

She sounds a bit unhinged, but judge for yourself. She testifies at minute 16 of the hearing. She represents US? Yikes.

Mary Jane Nelson:

She actually sounds very intelligent unlike the nutty Republicans.

Mary Jane Nelson:

jim T/Pony Tail Steve

So by your logic or should I say lack of logic we should have no laws as someone my break them..Only form a right winger....Too Funny thanks for the laugh.

The Norwalk Truth:

We see the troll Pony tail steve has changed user names to Jim T ..The names change but the spam and lies continues...SAD

right wing are wackos:

Excellent points Councilwoman Duleep . The only problem is that the right winger are brainwashed by the kook aid and will never understand this. They cant help it as its due to the disease. Also as we all know the Right Wingers support everything that destroys.. They are completely Un-American. If anyone would like proof just look at the wackos posts right on this site.

Ken P Jr:

Whopie do. What makes her a knowledgeable person on this subject? Ct is already very safe and already has more gun control than most states. There is no room for new "common sense" gun control. Is it "common sense" that our civil rights be outlawed on school property allowing tragedy after tragedy to happen? Common sense is looking around & taking ALL things into consideration. I'm sorry about her dog but thats immaterial as far as the peoples saftey is concerned. Those still looking to further gun restrictions have nothing resembling common sense on their side. Ever notice that gun control freaks get invited to these things but rarely are gun rights people or those knowledgeable on the subject invited? Its a dog & pony show to get the uninformed people on the side of those who would have us be helpless in the face of the same criminals many gun control advocates represent.
Violent crime is highest where gun control is toughest. Violent crime is much lower in places with less restrictive gun laws. This can be observed in hundreds of places across the country.
Its our RIGHT to protect ourselves with firearms if we so choose and if our PD needs to have the guns they do for protection then how can it be common sense to say that the people getting victimized have a lesser need?

We should try to rid our political bodies of these activists & fill them with people who have a respect for our rights, all our rights, even those they might see no need for. Norwalk would be much safer with no projects than it would be with no guns. Want to reduce crime? Bull doze Roodner court, Carlton Court and the other places which breed the criminals & create great places for out of town criminals to hang out in. That would also help with our financial woes in the city.
We need crime & criminal control, not gun & citizen control.

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